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Volkswagen VW Early Bay 1969 LHD
Sale price: £5,600.00 make an offer
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Date: 2018-09-05
Brend?n grace (from Shannon. Ireland) offered 6500 eur
Car location: Barry, United Kingdom
Sale type: Fixed price listing
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Volkswagen VW Early Bay 1969 LHD for sale
Current customer rating: (378 votes ) based onGeneral Overview
You are looking at a 1969 Early Bay - Left Hand Drive. When we bought it from FBI in Swansea on 27th July 2005. it had just been imported from the USA (Washington State) and at the time had its Westfalia Campmobile interior and elevating roof section. Apart from FBI. Dad is the only UK owner. We still have the Westfalia fibreglass elevating roof section and its corresponding roof rack panel and these will come with the vehicle if you want them. The camping interior is long gone.
Although not currently fitted. the vehicle will also come with the middle 2/3rds bench seat. which although stripped for repair (it will need new horse hair padding) it does come with a new unfitted TMI seat cover set which matches the new TMI seat cover fitted to the rear bench seat which is currently in the Bay.
The years have gone by. children grown up and we no longer use the Bay so are looking to find it a new home. We are VW fans and also have two early beetles one of which 1960 may also be for sale.
Description of vehicle condition
What follows is a detailed. warts and all. very honest description of a very genuine Bay. I have made no attempt to hide anything. In my opinion a buyer would prefer to know the true condition of a vehicle rather than be tempted by something that may look wonderful and shiny at first but on closer inspection is disappointing. full of filler and covered in fresh paint. But please remember that you are bidding on a vehicle that is 44 years old and there will be marks. wear and tear. nbsp; dings. scrapes. scratches. rust and all the usual signs of age and use that you would expect from a vehicle of this type. make and age.
I am more than happy for you to come and see the vehicle. before you bid. or to talk you through the condition over the phone etc (after 6. 30 pm please) or you can contact my son via Ebay questions. I am happy to take additional pictures of any area of the vehicle you wish to see.
Additional Photographs Available Now
The following photographs are already available. Please just ask for what you want to see via Ebay questions. Inner bottom of sliding door Offside cab step area Nearside cab step area Offside cab floor Nearside cab floor Main floor Sink drain hole Belly pan Nearside hole under cab step area Offside holes under cab step area Roof lining Interior view Front seats Paint imperfections by wiper spindle When vehicle was a camper When vehicle was half red Slight nose dent Door trim panel Speedo / Dash area
If you decide to come and see the vehicle. I'm happy to take you for a drive but for obvious reasons of insurance I am not prepared to let anyone drive. If you can show me your insurance certificate. proving to my satisfaction that you are covered to drive a vehicle that you do not own. on a comprehensive cover basis. then I may reconsider. I'm not trying to be awkward or hide anything just protecting my vehicle from a potential calamity. Would you be happy letting someone you don't know drive your pride and joy?
TAX - This vehicle is tax exempt MOT - Passed the MOT on 12 July 2013. with no advisory items.
Body
Paintwork - I believe the colour is Pearl White. We decided some years ago that it would look nice red and white. so I painted the bottom half with a brush. We then decided it looked better all white again. so I spent many hours in 2011 gently removing all the red paint to reveal the original paint underneath. When you see the vehicle you will see odd bits of red paint. I mention this so you know exactly what you are bidding on. the history of the vehicle and so there are no nasty surprises for you. I would say that the vehicle retains 75-80% or so of its original paint.
Nose / Front When we bought the vehicle it had the usual tyre holder bolted to the nose. I felt it was just too heavy and a bit ugly so removed it and filled the holes where it was bolted on.
There is a fairly shallow dent which is covered by the number plate and a few other shallow dings and dents. some of which have been lightly filled and painted by me so not the best job. There are some small paint imperfections below windscreen rubber around the offside wiper spindle and in a few places between the spindles. These are very small and were present and looked just like they do now when we bought the Bay back in 2005. Picture available on request.
Windscreen - Green sun tint along the top. Windscreen rubber was replaced by FBI when we bought the vehicle.
Rear of Vehicle
Hatch Door - In good sound condition with a few dings and scrapes.
Gutter - Light surface rust just below the roof gutter but I stress this is ONLY light patina type surface rust.
Bumper splash pans still present. Both half moon vents in good order.
Engine Cover - Good sound condition. Hinges recently replaced.
Rear Corner Off side - Battery tray replaced by FBI before we owned the Bay but could do with some attention here again now or leave as is.
Rear Corner Near Side - There don't seem to be any issues with the corner this side.
Near Side of Vehicle
Sound roof gutters. with light patina SURFACE rust on and just below. Similar light patina SURFACE rust just below the Louvre window.
Large panel above rear wheel good and sound. usual dings. scrapes and paint blemishes etc. Small bit of corrosion to the left of the rear side reflector as can be seen in the picture.
Large middle panel good and sound. This panel used to have the Westfalia power hook up in it. I removed this when we took out the camper interior. Hole was backed with alloy. lightly filled then sprayed but easily removed if you want to put back to original camper spec. Tried to photograph this but it didn't show up.
Sill good and sound. Some bits of the red paint that I mentioned at the start of my description.
Front door good and sound. again some red paint underneath as I mentioned above. Door will need new rubbers. Door latch release lever behind the handle can be a bit stiff but vehicle will come with a good used pair of front door handles that use the same key. Interior door trim panels have holes cut in them for speakers but the speakers are no longer present.
Cab Step and Dog Leg etc - All good and sound Area directly underneath cab step - Looking from underneath the Bay there is a small hole that will need to be welded up or left as is if you prefer. Picture available on request.
Off Side of Vehicle
Sound roof gutters. with light patina SURFACE rust on and just below.
Large panel above rear wheel - Good and sound. There is a small area just above the jacking point. where the side step is bolted to the vehicle. where the paint layer appears to have lifted away from the metal underneath. This is about 4cm long but the metal underneath seems sound enough to me. Also small patch of corrosion to right of red side reflector. Probably linked to battery tray.
Main Side Door - Good sound condition. some surface rust on the inside at the bottom edge. Vent window needs work as will not stay open
Sill - Sound original paint flaking off along very bottom but only as you would expect for this area and bearing in mind the age of the vehicle.
Front Door good and sound but will need new rubber. Key barrel came out but vehicle will come with a good used pair of door handles both of which use the same key. Interior door trim panels have holes cut in them for speakers but the speakers are no longer present.
Fresh Air Ducting on Front Doors - Because we were using the vehicle as a microbus. the front door panels have been fitted with the fresh air ducting which passes through the metal panels behind the front seats into the main seating area.
Cab Step and Dog Leg etc - Cab step good and sound. looks rusty in picture but it's just where the paint has come off. Dog leg etc good and sound but signs of corrosion adjacent to the end of the step rubber on the bumper. Picture available on request.
Under off side wheel arch two small repairs.
Area directly underneath cab step - Looking from underneath the Bay there are a couple of holes that will need to be welded up or left as is if you prefer. Picture available on request.
Cab floor - Sound but has been repaired both sides. Pictures available on request.
Main Floor - Sound. Just a few small surface rust patches Floor still has the factory hole where the Westfalia sink unit outlet was fitted. Picture available on request.
Chassis / Outriggers / Jacking Points - All good and sound. Pics available on request.
Suspension - All as it was when we bought the vehicle. It has not been lowered and as far as I can tell all per factory.
Roof - As you can see from the pictures. the vehicle looks like a tin top. The original factory hole in the roof has been filled in with a genuine Type 2 sliding sun roof panel. This panel has not been welded in place and can be easily removed should you want to reinstate the elevating roof which will come with the vehicle. Roof is in good condition. All the bolt holes and screw holes where the elevating camper roof was fitted have been filled and sprayed body colour but not welded up. so easy enough to remove the filler and backing if you want to reinstate the elevating roof. Similarly the vent hole for the original Westfalia sink has been filled in but again can easily be reinstated.
Gutters - All good and sound. Some surface rust but only light patina stuff.
Mechanical
Engine - The engine was replaced with a new 1600cc twin port Green engine (totally new crank case option) from The Engine Shop in August 2007. at a cost of £1045 - I have the receipt to prove this. The mileage when the engine was fitted was 44. 58. The mileage on the clock now is 50351. The speedo is the original one fitted when we bought the vehicle but I have no way of verifying the actual mileage covered by the vehicle.
Heat Exchangers - Good. sound and yes they do deliver heat into the interior. The control cables have long since broken and I have never got round to replacing them so the heater flaps are currently on heat mode permanently at the moment but perhaps not a bad thing given that winter is on the way. I still have the new control cables I bought years ago which will come with the vehicle.
Carburettor - Replaced about 18 months ago.
Gearbox - As far as I know it's the original box. It does not jump out of any gear. changes nicely and does not crunch. That said. the box can whine a little in 4th gear. It's not a noise that has bothered us and you soon get used to it as just how the Bay sounds. quite a friendly sound really. I mention this as I want to be 100% honest so that there are no unwelcome surprises should you decide to bid. If we were keeping the vehicle I would not be thinking of changing the gearbox as it still works just fine and is just part and parcel of a 40+ year old well loved and well used vehicle.
Clutch - All ok Steering - Original steering box. slight play in the straight ahead position as you would expect for a vehicle of this age but works fine. nbsp; doesn't wander and passed the MOT test OK.
Brakes - Standard drums all round. Front brakes sometimes pull to the left a little if you are using the vehicle for the first time after a long spell if not being used. This settles down after being driven a few miles and passed the MOT OK.
Drive Shafts - As far as I know these are the original items. Offside joints need attention as sometimes knock when you turn right. The near side joints seem fine.
Electrics - Dynamo has been replaced with an alternator. The battery was replaced in July 13 with a new one from GSF.
Interior Trim - All OK but clearly old and used and small hole in top corner of driver's seat. But rear bench seat has recently been recovered in a new TMI cover from VW Heritage. Middle 2/3rd seat comes with vehicle see above. Pics available on request.
Dash - Good and sound with a couple of age / sun cracks.
Speedo Binnacle - Fuel gauge replaced. Speedo needle can be erratic. Clock from a slightly later Bay fitted and did work but not currently connected up.
Mats - Cab mat is the original item. is obviously worn and has splits in the rubber but still looks OK. Walk through mat all OK. Main load area mat OK.
Headlining - I recently replaced the headlining with new ply. Looks just like a tin top vehicle from the inside. Cab section is the original ply as is the bit by the rear hatch.
Tyres - All OK and passed the MOT. They are commercial vehicle strength tyres.
I know how disappointing it can be to travel miles and miles to see an item only to find that it falls well short of what the seller has said or failed to mention. Or to buy an item based on a sellers description that has been written to at best gloss over the bad bits and at worst mislead you into believing that what you are buying is better than what it really is just to get a higher selling price etc.
I hope that you find my full and honest description informative and that it helps you decide whether it might be the vehicle for you. I have done my best to ensure that when you see the condition of the vehicle it is exactly as I have described it. no shocks. no disappointments. no let downs. That said I am only human and there may be things I have missed so I recommend that you come and see the Bay before you bid to satisfy yourself that it is the right one for you.
If you decide to bid without seeing the vehicle first that is. of course. your decision. However. I will take it that by bidding you are confirming that you accept and are fully satisfied with my description and what you see in the pictures. Winning bidder to pay in full by PayPal within 12 hours of their winning bid and Vehicle to be collected within 7 days at a day and time to suit both buyer and seller.
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