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1987 MERCEDES BENZ 190E RENNTECH 3.4 24V NOT COSWORTH 2.3 16V AMG M5 M3 1 OF 1

Sale price: $25,272.00 make an offer

Car location: Saint Petersburg, Florida, United States

Sale type: Fixed price listing

Technical specifications, photos and description:

Year:
1987
Mileage:
70,750
Engine:
3.4 24v
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1987 MERCEDES BENZ 190E RENNTECH 3.4 24V NOT COSWORTH 2.3 16V AMG M5 M3 1 OF 1 for sale

Current customer rating: current rating for this car(2) based on 720 votes

Selling my 1987 Mercedes Benz 190E RENNTECH. This is a 1 of 1 car built back in the early 90s. It started out as an already rare 1987 190E 2. 3 16V. It was shipped off to Renntech for a full conversion including complete engine swap. brake upgrade. clutch upgrade. wheels/tires. suspension. and a few interior goodies. I do have some paper work that verifies this. If you know anything about Renntech. you know Hartmut Feyhl was the head technical director at AMG before AMG was bought by Mercedes. He was the lead man on the world famous "HAMMER" super car. I did the research and looked into his early work. His fingerprint or style on these cars is basically take an engine out of the larger Mercedes. bore/stroke them out and stuff them into a smaller chassis. Then upgrade all the essentials to cope with the new power. Thats exactly what the Hammer was. and that's exactly what this little 190E is. Its a very cool proper motorcar.

 

The color is Back Pearl. it has a 5 speed getrag transmission with the dogleg pattern. all hooked up to a limited slip differential. The motor was pulled from a 300CE and was a 3. 0 24V. Renntech bored/stroked it to 3. 4 and it's good for 262HP 240lbs torque. I know the Cosworth faithful will say why? Simple answer. ORE POWER! The Cosworth head was finicky to get working right and when you did. they were still underpowered cars at about 160HP. The brakes are from the famous Mercedes/Porsche joint effort 500E and are 4 piston Brembo calipers in the front. pistons in the rear. The suspension is AMG shocks/springs. They did leave the SLS (self leveling system) in the rear to counter adjust ride height when the rear end is loaded with people. The clutch is from the 500SL (129 chassis). They also did 17" Mercedes Evo II wheels. The original wheels would be 15" wheels/tires. I however upgraded even further to the 18" monoblock II wheels. Im running Michelin Pilot Super Sport tires sizes 205/40/18. I weighed the evos and the AMG wheels and they are identical at 45lbs with wheel and tire. So I gained no unsprung weight by moving up to the 18s!I do not have the original wheels or the Evo wheels.

 

Exterior/Interior Condition

 

The car has 70K on the chassis and less on the engine. Not exactly sure when the motor went in but I'm sure Renntech could help with that. I have been watching 190E 16V cars that come through ebay and other venues and I haven't seen a single car yet with as low mileage as my car. Most have well over 100K miles. The paint has a few rock chips on the front and hood but nothing major. I would rate it as a 9 out of 10 and I think the pictures give a great representation of the car but it even looks better in real life. The interior shows no ware and the leather is about as mint as it can be for 26 years old. It has no rips tears or ware marks. Its very thick leather and the car smells delicious! The floor mattes are brand new from MB. so they are mint! The leather shift knob is brand new from MB. The headliner is flawIess. I would rate the interior at a strong 9 out of 10.

 

 

 

The Drive

 

Starts right up. 1st gear is very short. remember it's a dogleg configuration. so 1st is down to the left and then the rest of the shift pattern is a simple H pattern. I replaced the shifter (inside the car) and shift linkage (under the car) bushings with new Delrin bushing kit and it has absolutely transformed the shifting on the car. It's better then new. Anyway 2nd gear is also very quick and you're now into the power in 3rd 4th and 5th gears. This car is a bit harsh around the city with the low profile 40 series tires but on the interstate is where it shines. Shes a true luxury cruiser with a "sleeper" side to it. I have allot of fun in 3rd gear. 4th is very powerful and 5th is a nice cruiser gear. I drove the car from Pa. to Fl. and was amazed at how comfortable it is. IM 6 Ft 1" tall and I can get full laid out in the seat to where im almost lying down flat. The car was known as the baby Benz but when you're inside the car it does not feel like a small compact car. From the drivers view point the Mercedes emblem on the front of the car appears to be 5-6 feet away from the driver. then me comfortably stretched out in the heated front seat. I have another row of seating behind me and a large trunk behind that. It almost feels like a larger S class but somehow it's only the entry level baby Mercedes. It's very strange but that's how it feels. Anyway the power is there. the steering is crisp and responsive and the brakes are perfect. All the buttons inside work just as they are supposed to. The A/C blows ice cold. the radio works; it has a CD changer in the trunk. The sun roof slides open or tilts up. All 4 seats are from Recarro. thy are beautiful! The 2 front seats are full power including the head rests. Both seats are heated. The driver's side has memory for 2 drivers. Like I said all items work. Also the LCD lap timer in the center console was replaced and does not have the "bleeding" screen you see on allot of these cars. The gauges have all been switched out to white color and the center gauge has the "Renntech" logo on it. The steering wheel is wrapped in leather and feels great. very good feel to it and it translates what the car is doing very well. I have owned several Porsche 911s' in the past couple years including a lightweight track car and I have to tell you the grip on this Mercedes is very respectable. It just sticks. It feels planted and firm. for what it is. the car will surprise allot of folks! I invite any potential owners to come and drive the car.     

 

 

What I have done since I purchased the car

 

Started with new wheels and tires. 18" factory MB AMG Monoblock II wheels and Michelin Super Sport tires size 205/40/18. I replaced all 4 rotors and brake pads with factory MB parts. I also flushed the brake fluid and replaced with new MB brake fluid. I had a custom straight through exhaust system fitted with Borla muffler and Renntech tip. no cats. Sounds great! Added a few more ponies also with the new exhaust system. I replaced the headlight bulbs and wiper blade. I added factory MB euro amber corner lenses in the front. The car already had the factory euro headlight conversion (no cheesy headlight wipers). I also changed all fluids with Mobil 1 including the synthetic oil. Mobil 1 tranny fluid and Mobil 1 differential fluid. On the inside. I added brand new factory MB 190E black floor mattes. I added a new factory MB leather shift knob and boot. I changed all shifter and shift linkage bushings. I also did the German Huper Optic ceramic tint including windshield (ouch $600). I had the grille up front painted to match the car and added a new hood "star" ornament. We also removed the "3. 4 24V" badging off the rear trunk and added the new "Renntech" logo badge.

 

 

 

KNOWN ISSUES

 

The rear differential does make some noise when under power. It probably could use a rebuild however. its not a big deal. I never planned on tracking the car. so when else do you need the LSD?It doesn't bother me or trust me I would fix it. The right rear shock needs replacing as do the accumulators for the SLS system. I have bought the parts but have not had time to install them yet. I may have that done by the time the car sells. I may not. Either way the parts will go to the new owner. The shock were purchased used. the accumulators are new. Thats it. no other issues.

 

 

 

So that's it. This is my dream car from when I was a teenager in the late 80s. Its been a thrill to own. I treated her very nice and she hasn't disappointed me one time. The 190E 16V is truly unique and with the Renntech conversion option. this car is very special. She starts right up. drives very nice. and will scare you when you decide to put your right foot down. She stops very fast when the brakes are applied. The old girl demands EVERYBODYS attention when she pulls in to the local cars and coffee!

 

 

 

I would love to sell her to the 6th owner and prefer not to sell to anybody who just wants to flip the car. This car is incredible and I invite any interested parties to contact me. PPI is encouraged and welcomed. I have nothing to hide. nor does my car. A test ride is welcomed! Clean car fax/no accidents.

 

 

 

The car must be paid in full within 5 days. Call me to discuss shipping/payment info. I owe a small amount to the bank on the car. so please allow a couple weeks max for me to get the title to you. It's a clean title and it's through Wells Fargo Auto Finance. I recently sold my 930 Turbo Slant nose via ebay and will make it as easy as possible for any potential buyers! Silly offers will not be responded to. no trades either. I reserve the right to end the auction at any time. Thanks for looking!

 

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Comments and questions to the seller:

from dean F., dated 04 october 2021
Hey! im looking to buy this car. serious buyer. MBZ enthusiast. please let me know if its still available. thanks!

from CARLOS LUCHAU, dated 20 july 2021
more photos or video engine

from S Graham, dated 18 june 2020
I am interested in pics of the engine bay, dyno sheets, build sheets or invoices from Renntech? How long have you owned the car, how many miles have you accumulated with it. Additionally could you advise currently what isn't working, needs repair or may soon need replacement?

Thanks


from Marc Bergeron, dated 27 april 2017
hi, i try to ask but im sure your MB 190 is sold
i read 2013 last update...
if not
i got few questions...
but ill wait your answer first


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